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help / color / mirror / Atom feedFrom: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Cc: Cornelia Biacsics <cornelia.biacsics@cybertec.at>
Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Request to add a new item to the PostgreSQL Wiki Main Page
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 09:08:34 -0800
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On 11/17/25 07:25, Tom Lane wrote:
> Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> writes:
>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 at 11:31, Cornelia Biacsics <
>> cornelia.biacsics@cybertec.at> wrote:
>>> I would like to request the addition of a new item on the main page of the
>>> PostgreSQL Wiki https://wiki.postgresql.org/. Under this item, I plan to
>>> create several subpages that list all available social channels used by
>>> members of the PostgreSQL community (e.g., Slack, Telegram, Discord, etc.).
>
>> I don't necessarily object to having a wiki page like this, but it would
>> need to be *extremely* clear that these are NOT official PostgreSQL
>> channels, and that they may have their own participation rules, outside of
>> the standard community ones. We definitely need more opinions on this
>> though - others on the core team or the CoC committee (as well as others)
>> should give their thoughts as well.
>
> FWIW, I think it's a fine idea as long as we make it sufficiently
> clear that these aren't community-run spaces and don't necessarily
> follow the community CoC.
>
Not sure how that applies, per:
https://www.postgresql.org/community/
to
https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/
to
https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/user-groups/
"To become recognised as PostgreSQL User Group, the user group must
self-certify that they meet the criteria below, aimed at ensuring they
meet the standards of openness expected in the PostgreSQL Community. "
[...]
"The PostgreSQL User Group MUST adopt and follow an appropriate Code of
Conduct to ensure a safe and enjoyable environment for anyone who wishes
to participate.
The PostgreSQL User Group SHOULD adopt the PostgreSQL Code of Conduct.
"
So you can be a 'community' recognized group without holding to the Core
CoC.
> That being the case, I'm not sure I like any of the three proposed
> page titles, as they all include "Community" somewhere. Maybe
> something like "PostgreSQL-Related Communication Channels"?
> But I'm just bikeshedding.
There needs to a be set definition of what 'community' refers to, as of
now I can see no reason they can't be titled 'Community'.
>
> regards, tom lane
>
>
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Adrian Klaver
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