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Subject: Re: Request to add a new item to the PostgreSQL Wiki Main Page
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
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On 11/17/25 07:25, Tom Lane wrote:
> Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> writes:
>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 at 11:31, Cornelia Biacsics <
>> cornelia.biacsics@cybertec.at> wrote:
>>> I would like to request the addition of a new item on the main page of the
>>> PostgreSQL Wiki https://wiki.postgresql.org/. Under this item, I plan to
>>> create several subpages that list all available social channels used by
>>> members of the PostgreSQL community (e.g., Slack, Telegram, Discord, etc.).
> 
>> I don't necessarily object to having a wiki page like this, but it would
>> need to be *extremely* clear that these are NOT official PostgreSQL
>> channels, and that they may have their own participation rules, outside of
>> the standard community ones. We definitely need more opinions on this
>> though - others on the core team or the CoC committee (as well as others)
>> should give their thoughts as well.
> 
> FWIW, I think it's a fine idea as long as we make it sufficiently
> clear that these aren't community-run spaces and don't necessarily
> follow the community CoC.
> 

Not sure how that applies, per:

https://www.postgresql.org/community/

to

https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/

to

https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/user-groups/


"To become recognised as PostgreSQL User Group, the user group must 
self-certify that they meet the criteria below, aimed at ensuring they 
meet the standards of openness expected in the PostgreSQL Community. "


[...]

"The PostgreSQL User Group MUST adopt and follow an appropriate Code of 
Conduct to ensure a safe and enjoyable environment for anyone who wishes 
to participate.

     The PostgreSQL User Group SHOULD adopt the PostgreSQL Code of Conduct.
"

So you can be a 'community' recognized group without holding to the Core 
CoC.


> That being the case, I'm not sure I like any of the three proposed
> page titles, as they all include "Community" somewhere.  Maybe
> something like "PostgreSQL-Related Communication Channels"?
> But I'm just bikeshedding.

There needs to a be set definition of what 'community' refers to, as of 
now I can see no reason they can't be titled 'Community'.

> 
> 			regards, tom lane
> 
> 


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