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From: Pavel Golub <pavel@microolap.com>
To: Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
To: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: proposal: schema variables
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 14:15:00 +0200
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Hello, Pavel.

You wrote:

PS> Hi,

PS> I propose a  new database object - a variable. The variable is
PS> persistent object, that holds unshared session based not
PS> transactional in memory value of any type. Like variables in any
PS> other languages. The persistence is required for possibility to do
PS> static checks, but can be limited to session - the variables can be temporal.

Great idea.

PS> My proposal is related to session variables from Sybase, MSSQL or
PS> MySQL (based on prefix usage @ or @@), or package variables from
PS> Oracle (access is controlled by scope), or schema variables from
PS> DB2. Any design is coming from different sources, traditions and
PS> has some advantages or disadvantages. The base of my proposal is
PS> usage schema variables as session variables for stored procedures.
PS> It should to help to people who try to port complex projects to PostgreSQL from other databases.

PS> The Sybase  (T-SQL) design is good for interactive work, but it
PS> is weak for usage in stored procedures - the static check is not
PS> possible. Is not possible to set some access rights on variables.

PS> The ADA design (used on Oracle) based on scope is great, but our
PS> environment is not nested. And we should to support other PL than PLpgSQL more strongly.

PS> There is not too much other possibilities - the variable that
PS> should be accessed from different PL, different procedures (in
PS> time) should to live somewhere over PL, and there is the schema only.

PS> The variable can be created by CREATE statement:

PS> CREATE VARIABLE public.myvar AS integer;
PS> CREATE VARIABLE myschema.myvar AS mytype;

PS> CREATE [TEMP] VARIABLE [IF NOT EXISTS] name AS type 
PS>   [ DEFAULT expression ] [[NOT] NULL]
PS>   [ ON TRANSACTION END { RESET | DROP } ]
PS>   [ { VOLATILE | STABLE } ];


PS> It is dropped by command DROP VARIABLE  [ IF EXISTS] varname.

PS> The access rights is controlled by usual access rights - by
PS> commands GRANT/REVOKE. The possible rights are: READ, WRITE

PS> The variables can be modified by SQL command SET (this is taken from standard, and it natural)

PS> SET varname = expression;

I propose LET keyword for this to distinguish GUC from variables, e.g.

LET varname = expression;

PS> Unfortunately we use the SET command for different purpose. But I
PS> am thinking so we can solve it with few tricks. The first is
PS> moving our GUC to pg_catalog schema. We can control the strictness
PS> of SET command. In one variant, we can detect custom GUC and allow
PS> it, in another we can disallow a custom GUC and allow only schema
PS> variables. A new command LET can be alternative.



PS> The variables should be used in queries implicitly (without JOIN)


PS> SELECT varname;


PS> The SEARCH_PATH is used, when varname is located. The variables
PS> can be used everywhere where query parameters are allowed. 



PS> I hope so this proposal is good enough and simple.


PS> Comments, notes?


PS> regards


PS> Pavel






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 Pavel                          mailto:pavel@gf.microolap.com



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