Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1thBgn-00HR42-Se for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2025 18:05:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1thBgm-00FcCy-53 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2025 18:05:52 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1thBgl-00FcCp-Rz for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2025 18:05:51 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1thBgj-004Bta-2m for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2025 18:05:50 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 519I5gA72035080; Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:05:42 -0500 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: Jelte Fennema-Nio , torikoshia , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, rjuju123@gmail.com, Bruce Momjian Subject: Re: RFC: Allow EXPLAIN to Output Page Fault Information In-reply-to: References: <3861403.1735576764@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1f22794321b745549d54359d343e37b8@oss.nttdata.com> <2c9d6eaf26df17bec13bb03bf1e9bcbb@oss.nttdata.com> Comments: In-reply-to Andres Freund message dated "Sun, 09 Feb 2025 12:59:27 -0500" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2035078.1739124342.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2025 13:05:42 -0500 Message-ID: <2035079.1739124342@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Andres Freund writes: > I'm somewhat against this patch, as it's fairly fundamentally incompatible > with AIO. There's no real way to get information in this manner if the IO > isn't executed synchronously in process context... Even without looking ahead to AIO, there's bgwriter, walwriter, and checkpointer processes that all take I/O load away from foreground processes. I don't really believe that this will produce useful numbers. regards, tom lane