Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wJn42-000IrG-2P for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 May 2026 06:45:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wJn41-0060oe-1K for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 May 2026 06:45:57 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wJn41-0060oW-0I for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 May 2026 06:45:57 +0000 Received: from smtp123.iad3a.emailsrvr.com ([173.203.187.123]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1wJn3y-000000006gM-37R7 for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 May 2026 06:45:56 +0000 X-Auth-ID: xof@thebuild.com Received: by smtp8.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: xof-AT-thebuild.com) with ESMTPSA id 4B0E25340 for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 02:45:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Christophe Pettus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51.11.8\)) Subject: pgBackRest maintenance (was Re: Tablespace size in TB) Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 23:45:53 -0700 References: <81DB47B9-3244-41BA-980D-66AC371C8CA6@gmail.com> <3166829D-694D-4A44-B7F5-A7D454EB77DD@gmail.com> To: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51.11.8) X-Classification-ID: 7af6cee7-c57b-48b1-be58-2d989504c6ce-1-1 List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On May 3, 2026, at 22:55, Ilya Kosmodemiansky = wrote: > Making a company-branded fork is the easiest (and wrong) step. = Planning how to pick up the pgBackRest project or create a sustainable, = community-driven fork that re-establishes at least the same reputation = requires longer preparation. We all need patience. Dave was quite clear that someone "picking up the pgBackRest project" = was not on the table. I don't think that avenue is open. I would feel more sanguine about the idea that a new community-suported = fork will emerge if there were an existence proof of it happening in the = PostgreSQL community. I can't think of one. We need to tell our customers something, and "the community will ride in = and maintain pgBackRest, just you wait" isn't a satisfactory answer. We = can tell clients all we want that the current pgBackRest version works = just fine, they don't have to change, a community standard version will = emerge, and so forth, but that falls on deaf ears. This is a backup = tool; it's second only to PostgreSQL itself in the "must work all the = time" camp. All they hear is what it says on the repo, which is = "pgBackRest is no longer being maintained." I think it more likely that an entirely new backup tool will emerge, = become the de facto community standards, and then we will move off = pgBackRest (and its forks) onto that.=