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From: Igor Korot <ikorot01@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 19:52:13 -0700
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Subject: Re: Problem linking with Release library
To: "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
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Hi, David,

On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 6:04=E2=80=AFPM David G. Johnston <
david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 12, 2026, Igor Korot <ikorot01@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> So then I thought about creating MSVC project for building libpq as a
>> dependency. All I need is to produce a basic default build of both Debug
>> and Release builds of libpq only. No server and no ther software needed.
>> Prefer to build version 17.4.
>>
>
>
> https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=3Dpostgresql.git;a=3Dcommit;h=3D1301=
c80b2167feb658a738fa4ceb1c23d0991e23
>
> You seem to have put yourself into cutting edge PostgreSQL territory whil=
e
> remaining firmly old-school on the OS side of things=E2=80=A6not usually =
a good
> place to find oneself.
>
> My LLM guided understanding is your likely 9.6 tool path was removed in
> favor of meson back in 2023.  But meson itself is still working out the
> rough edges for stuff like a defined target for a libpq-only build and
> install.
>
> There is no guarantee or real attempt to keep modern supported versions
> running on software obsoleted before they even came into existence.  You
> may or may not be able to finagle make/meson to do what you are attemptin=
g
> and the desire to help is limited.  You may wish to consult an LLM of you=
r
> choice for assistance.  For something like this they can be very helpful
> with little downside.
>

What I don=E2=80=99t understand is:

1. There used to be a split builds - one package to build the server and
another to build the client (libpq). This is no longer the case.
PostgreSQL positions itself as client-server RDBMS,  so why in order to
build the client I need the full blown server to download?

2. Any reason I need to install additional software for building (or
configuring the build)? You used to provide the Makefile for MSVC build.
What happened to it?

But to the point -

I=E2=80=99m not running Postgres server. It is running on the different mac=
hines.
All I need is to build the client library. Why can=E2=80=99t I? Why it shou=
ld
matter what software (OS/compiler) I=E2=80=99m using? As long as I can succ=
essfully
build my software and test it  it should be fine.

Thank you.


> David J.
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi, David,</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_=
quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 12, 2026=
 at 6:04=E2=80=AFPM David G. Johnston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:david.g.johnsto=
n@gmail.com">david.g.johnston@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tuesday, May 12, 2026, Igor Korot=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ikorot01@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ikorot01@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><div><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">So then I thought about cr=
eating MSVC project for building libpq as a dependency. All I need is to pr=
oduce a basic default build of both Debug and Release builds of libpq only.=
 No server and no ther software needed. Prefer to build version 17.4.</div>=
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://git.postgre=
sql.org/gitweb/?p=3Dpostgresql.git;a=3Dcommit;h=3D1301c80b2167feb658a738fa4=
ceb1c23d0991e23" target=3D"_blank">https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=3Dp=
ostgresql.git;a=3Dcommit;h=3D1301c80b2167feb658a738fa4ceb1c23d0991e23</a></=
div><div><br></div><div>You seem to have put yourself into cutting edge Pos=
tgreSQL territory while remaining firmly old-school on the OS side of thing=
s=E2=80=A6not usually a good place to find oneself.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>My LLM guided understanding is your likely 9.6 tool path was removed in f=
avor of meson back in 2023.=C2=A0 But meson itself is still working out the=
 rough edges for stuff like a defined target for a libpq-only build and ins=
tall.</div><div><br></div><div>There is no guarantee or real attempt to kee=
p modern supported versions running on software obsoleted before they even =
came into existence.=C2=A0 You may or may not be able to finagle make/meson=
 to do what you are attempting and the desire to help is limited.=C2=A0 You=
 may wish to consult an LLM of your choice for assistance.=C2=A0 For someth=
ing like this they can be very helpful with little downside.</div></blockqu=
ote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">What I don=E2=80=99t unde=
rstand is:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">1. There used=
 to be a split builds - one package to build the server and another to buil=
d the client (libpq). This is no longer the case.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"au=
to">PostgreSQL positions itself as client-server RDBMS, =C2=A0so why in ord=
er to build the client I need the full blown server to download?</div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">2. Any reason I need to install ad=
ditional software for building (or configuring the build)? You used to prov=
ide the Makefile for MSVC build. What happened to it?</div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But to the point -</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m not running Postgres server. It is run=
ning on the different machines. All I need is to build the client library. =
Why can=E2=80=99t I? Why it should matter what software (OS/compiler) I=E2=
=80=99m using? As long as I can successfully build my software and test it =
=C2=A0it should be fine.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Thank you.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div><br></div><div>David J.</d=
iv><div><br></div>
</blockquote></div></div>

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