Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wNaOD-000v9i-0F for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 May 2026 18:02:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wNaOB-00EUcA-2E for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 May 2026 18:02:27 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wNaOB-00EUc0-1V for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 May 2026 18:02:27 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1wNaO9-00000000cVI-1AKL for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 May 2026 18:02:27 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 64EI2F5L1018714; Thu, 14 May 2026 14:02:15 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Bruce Momjian cc: Dave Cramer , Robert Treat , Kirk Parker , Richard Neill , github@richardneill.org, pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Please clarify that Timestamp with Timezone doesn't preserve the timezone. In-reply-to: References: <177685804902.403059.7237129094698721575@wrigleys.postgresql.org> Comments: In-reply-to Bruce Momjian message dated "Thu, 14 May 2026 12:39:48 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1018712.1778781735.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 14:02:15 -0400 Message-ID: <1018713.1778781735@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Bruce Momjian writes: > Okay, here is the patch with "conversion". timetz does store a UTC offset, so it needs to be discussed separately. I don't think applying the same verbiage to time and timestamp will produce anything except more confusion. regards, tom lane