Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wPxVc-001Ava-0g for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 21 May 2026 07:07:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wPxVZ-009QI8-2p for pgsql-bugs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 21 May 2026 07:07:54 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wPxVZ-009QHq-1Y for pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 21 May 2026 07:07:54 +0000 Received: from forwardcorp1b.mail.yandex.net ([2a02:6b8:c02:900:1:45:d181:df01]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1wPxVX-000000003wy-1BHL for pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 21 May 2026 07:07:53 +0000 Received: from mail-nwsmtp-smtp-corp-main-66.iva.yp-c.yandex.net (mail-nwsmtp-smtp-corp-main-66.iva.yp-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0c:bf1f:0:640:c739:0]) by forwardcorp1b.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPS id 860DB80814; Thu, 21 May 2026 10:07:46 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtpclient.apple (regus.net [204.209.177.179]) by mail-nwsmtp-smtp-corp-main-66.iva.yp-c.yandex.net (smtpcorp) with ESMTPSA id g7NvdS0MxW20-k5z8dMn1; Thu, 21 May 2026 10:07:45 +0300 X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex-team.ru; s=default; t=1779347265; bh=YSncUarigdHgF6kr8zSRarS5dZf5yXcdJ8GjKnslOzk=; h=Message-Id:In-Reply-To:Date:To:References:From:Subject; b=pd3EXfQ57MVFz/Z1NBKShGWTfbwTC7ZPWpSBEKqI7eignHduCYIsuKGjP3nnmibKm Q08UjDp6Dm0HvivApCr0ct4JIz2fiwq0TODY2PkG+ZpKDd3uyLf1rKWiRWBXWN3Xa2 gRHQjQDqGfLfpDcIK7n50w5NGRC1W1ugmRnSNqkw= Authentication-Results: mail-nwsmtp-smtp-corp-main-66.iva.yp-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex-team.ru From: Andrey Borodin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.500.181\)) Subject: Re: BUG #19490: Streaming standby on 16.14 stops applying WAL on MultiXactOffsetSLRU when primary is 16.8 Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 00:07:31 -0700 References: <19490-9c59c6a583513b99@postgresql.org> To: radim@boringsql.com, PostgreSQL mailing lists In-Reply-To: <19490-9c59c6a583513b99@postgresql.org> Message-Id: <46FE61C9-F273-45FD-BED7-0F8CDA6EB992@yandex-team.ru> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.500.181) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Thanks for the report! Oh, this seems to be from the "gift that keeps on giving" department. Related to [0] > On 20 May 2026, at 14:16, PG Bug reporting form = wrote: >=20 > Downgrading the standby binary to 16.12 (16.12-1.pgdg22.04+1) against > the same data directory restored normal replay. After 60s under the = same > workload pg_stat_slru shows only 2 hits / 0 reads on MultiXact. Are you sure that it's not 16.11 that is resolving the problem? Can you get a backtrace of hanging startup process with debug symbols? = Or obtain last replayed LSN and do a WAL dump in the area of deadlocked startup. I don't see how this might be a result of [1] and [2], so, perhaps, it's = some more peculiarities from [3]. But 16.12 has [3]... Best regards, Andrey Borodin. [0] = https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/CACV2tSw3VYS7d27ftO_cs%2BaF3M54= %2BJwWBbqSGLcKoG9cvyb6EA%40mail.gmail.com [1] = https://git.postgresql.org/cgit/postgresql.git/commit/?h=3DREL_16_STABLE&i= d=3D77dff5d937b192b85c55bce822e7413ff7dda6eb [2] = https://git.postgresql.org/cgit/postgresql.git/commit/?h=3DREL_16_STABLE&i= d=3D23064542f8bdcbc4b6a513cac8ceed67c0d2336e [3] = https://git.postgresql.org/cgit/postgresql.git/commit/?h=3DREL_16_STABLE&i= d=3D6351669130782ed01eed3aeefded171789d0bc35=