Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vbkBH-00C59A-2j for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 18:47:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vbkBG-00AlkA-1R for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 18:47:23 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vbkBG-00Alk2-0h for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 18:47:22 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vbkBF-003qyq-1T for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 18:47:22 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2026010100; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description; bh=h5oYUyO5hdXdFhfyxV8wdE8BfKugFQt9ZL90qiKmHLw=; b=JGKzK HHIDJIKlYpgLAVtnWNyYFRIMbags8rfpYBMKoG9H5SLf2wMUvm7c3LOstbU/eMfswlWmp33YjsmBN vNdgKV255qp9H2PrvaXC1DIC7G0A7l32h6vWet7thHXZ83tTw1LrR5rtTO1LfMMgACKEvCrOrdCDE t26fYgThOP3z6bSu1r3piWoeQdfxAfurraQ7//YYyCgf7x1es8cFHFQyIGgQO/0Rsr40QPizm9072 WXVp8UtHvVvjji1EOQVQ6VH4M6b9rUEWEH4SDM0c21ljVnewoapPWKz+8dmlB7H9seBGsfNQw0Dw7 i7fdzNBWPxRRrEsmiHsyuH/6NmUEQ==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vbkBD-0000000HWSl-3N8j; Fri, 02 Jan 2026 13:47:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2026 13:47:19 -0500 From: Bruce Momjian To: Dave Page Cc: Robert Haas , Umair Shahid , Greg Sabino Mullane , Cornelia Biacsics , pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Non-Compete Challenges for Community Work Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 02:17:10PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I don't know if things are improving and we can ignore the issue, or if > there is some action that can be taken. Ideas are: > > * New employees should read employment contracts and ideally have them > reviewed by an employment lawyer. It might be difficult, but not > being able to find a suitable job for a year is clearly worse. > > * Somehow incentivize companies to limit their non-compete restrictions > to be more limited, and hopefully not block community involvement. I think a question is whether it is wise for the community to be influencing how companies specify compete restrictions in their employment contracts. Even if the community were successful in making changes that are positive for employees, is this an overreach for the community? An idea would be to allow companies to voluntarily submit their non-compete clauses to the community for approval to be listed on some community fair-employment page. Would any company do that? A more fruitful and less heavy-handed option might be to encourage employees to read and actively evaluate their compete restrictions. However, many of our contributors become involved with our community only _after_ being employed, meaning the employment contract has already been accepted by the employee. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.