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From: Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 14:54:13 +0000
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Subject: Re: Non-Compete Challenges for Community Work
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com>,
 Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>,
	Cornelia Biacsics <cornelia.biacsics@gmail.com>,
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 at 14:20, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 8:24=E2=80=AFAM Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrot=
e:
> > Agreed - and companies like pgEdge and EDB have policies and often
> employment contracts that specifically encourage contributions.
>
> I'm kind of surprised by the direction of this conversation, because
> I'm aware of some problematic cases. Even if none of us were, that
> wouldn't mean that there are no problems. People are going to be
> understandably reluctant to discuss their terms of employment
> publicly.
>

I don't think she's wrong - I just think the issue is much smaller than
suggested and that there are likely better places to spend time, effort,
and money at the moment (such as, I believe, the average age of our
contributors being on the rise). More and more jurisdictions seem to be
banning non-competes (or regularly ruling against them) for employees, so
it seems to me that the problem is slowly going away anyway.

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Dave Page
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g=
mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 8 Dec 2=
025 at 14:20, Robert Haas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robertmhaas@gmail.com">robe=
rtmhaas@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:=
solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Dec 8, 2=
025 at 8:24=E2=80=AFAM Dave Page &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dpage@pgadmin.org" t=
arget=3D"_blank">dpage@pgadmin.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Agreed - and companies like pgEdge and EDB have policies and often emp=
loyment contracts that specifically encourage contributions.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m kind of surprised by the direction of this conversation, because<br=
>
I&#39;m aware of some problematic cases. Even if none of us were, that<br>
wouldn&#39;t mean that there are no problems. People are going to be<br>
understandably reluctant to discuss their terms of employment<br>
publicly.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t think she&#39;s w=
rong - I just think the issue is much smaller than suggested and that there=
 are likely better places to spend time, effort, and money at the moment (s=
uch as, I believe, the average age of our contributors being on the rise). =
More and more jurisdictions seem to be banning non-competes (or regularly r=
uling against them) for employees, so it seems to me that the problem is sl=
owly going away anyway.=C2=A0<br></div></div><div><br></div><span class=3D"=
gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signa=
ture"><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave Page<div>pgAdmin: <a href=3D"https://www.pgadmi=
n.org" target=3D"_blank">https://www.pgadmin.org</a></div><div>PostgreSQL: =
<a href=3D"https://www.postgresql.org" target=3D"_blank">https://www.postgr=
esql.org</a></div><div>pgEdge: <a href=3D"https://www.pgedge.com" target=3D=
"_blank">https://www.pgedge.com</a><br><div></div><div><br></div></div></di=
v></div></div>

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