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From: Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 16:59:33 +0000
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Subject: Re: Non-Compete Challenges for Community Work
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com>,
 Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>,
	Cornelia Biacsics <cornelia.biacsics@gmail.com>,
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 at 16:57, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 9:54=E2=80=AFAM Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrot=
e:
> > I don't think she's wrong - I just think the issue is much smaller than
> suggested and that there are likely better places to spend time, effort,
> and money at the moment (such as, I believe, the average age of our
> contributors being on the rise). More and more jurisdictions seem to be
> banning non-competes (or regularly ruling against them) for employees, so
> it seems to me that the problem is slowly going away anyway.
>
> It's all a bit related, though. Older, more established contributors
> are more likely to have leverage that they can use to preserve their
> employment options, or the resources to get through a period of
> unemployment or under-employment. Younger or less well-established
> contributors are more likely to get pushed out of the community by an
> adverse event (such as an employer or ex-employer with a good lawyer).
>

True, that could definitely be a factor.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g=
mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 8 Dec 2=
025 at 16:57, Robert Haas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robertmhaas@gmail.com">robe=
rtmhaas@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:=
solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Dec 8, 2=
025 at 9:54=E2=80=AFAM Dave Page &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dpage@pgadmin.org" t=
arget=3D"_blank">dpage@pgadmin.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I don&#39;t think she&#39;s wrong - I just think the issue is much sma=
ller than suggested and that there are likely better places to spend time, =
effort, and money at the moment (such as, I believe, the average age of our=
 contributors being on the rise). More and more jurisdictions seem to be ba=
nning non-competes (or regularly ruling against them) for employees, so it =
seems to me that the problem is slowly going away anyway.<br>
<br>
It&#39;s all a bit related, though. Older, more established contributors<br=
>
are more likely to have leverage that they can use to preserve their<br>
employment options, or the resources to get through a period of<br>
unemployment or under-employment. Younger or less well-established<br>
contributors are more likely to get pushed out of the community by an<br>
adverse event (such as an employer or ex-employer with a good lawyer).<br><=
/blockquote><div><br></div><div>True, that could definitely be a factor.=C2=
=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- <=
/span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave =
Page<div>pgAdmin: <a href=3D"https://www.pgadmin.org" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.pgadmin.org</a></div><div>PostgreSQL: <a href=3D"https://www.postg=
resql.org" target=3D"_blank">https://www.postgresql.org</a></div><div>pgEdg=
e: <a href=3D"https://www.pgedge.com" target=3D"_blank">https://www.pgedge.=
com</a><br><div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>

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