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Do you see this as an issue the PostgreSQL community should >>> discuss? >>> >>> No. I've seen no examples of this. The Postgres ecosystem is thriving, >> and people jump jobs from one employer to another with no friction right >> now. >> > > +1 > > I have not seen any examples of non-compete clauses that prevent the > person from contributing to PostgreSQL. The clauses that I have seen & > experienced are designed to prevent poaching. > Agreed - and companies like pgEdge and EDB have policies and often employment contracts that specifically encourage contributions. --=20 Dave Page pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com --000000000000c41184064570b50d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, 8 Dec 2= 025 at 11:43, Umair Shahid <um= air.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 8:58=E2=80=AFPM Greg Sabino= Mullane <htamfi= ds@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 11:27=E2=80=AFAM Cornelia Biacsics <= cornelia.b= iacsics@gmail.com> wrote:
  1. Do you see this as an issue the PostgreSQL = community should discuss?
No. I've see= n no examples of this. The Postgres=C2=A0ecosystem is thriving, and people = jump jobs from one employer to another with no friction right now.

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I have= not seen any examples of non-compete clauses that prevent the person from = contributing to PostgreSQL. The clauses that I have seen & experienced = are designed to prevent poaching.=C2=A0
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Agreed - and companies like pgEdge and EDB have policies and= often employment contracts that specifically encourage contributions.

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