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"If you go to work for > here's what it might look like" but with no judging or comments from the > community? > > Yeah, I think that's very unlikely that companies will be interested in > that. And even if they are, I bet they wouldn't update them as their > templates change anyway... I am still waiting on a convincing argument as to why the project would want to wander into this mess in the first place? > > //Magnus > -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com