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From: Ron Johnson <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
To: Pgsql-admin <pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Are these metadata ALTER TABLE commands transactionally safe?
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 21:03:47 -0400
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On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 5:26 PM David G. Johnston <
david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, May 14, 2026, Ron Johnson <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> PG 17.9
>>
>> BEGIN;
>> ALTER TABLE x RENAME TO x_hold;
>> ALTER TABLE y.x SET SCHEMA a;
>> ALTER TABLE x OWNER TO foo;
>> COMMIT;
>>
>>
> Define “transactionally safe”.
>

Any open transactions will still see the original tables.


>
>
>> I don't trust the validity of synthetic tests when Prod is ill-behaved
>> JDBC connections.
>>
>>
> Then do them over a local connection using psql?
>

The applications which I don't want to throw errors are ill-behaved JDBC
connections.  Sorry for the ambiguity.

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