Return-Path: postman Delivery-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 11:37:52 PDT Return-Path: postman Received: by postgres.Berkeley.EDU (5.61/1.29) id AA26510; Fri, 24 Sep 93 11:34:41 -0700 Resent-From: postman (POSTGRES mailing list) Resent-Message-Id: <9309241834.AA26510@postgres.Berkeley.EDU> Sender: owner-postman@postgres.Berkeley.EDU X-Return-Path: aoki@postgres.Berkeley.EDU Received: from faerie.CS.Berkeley.EDU by postgres.Berkeley.EDU (5.61/1.29) id AA26502; Fri, 24 Sep 93 11:34:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by faerie.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.1C/8.1B) with SMTP id LAA14709; Fri, 24 Sep 1993 11:36:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199309241836.LAA14709@faerie.CS.Berkeley.EDU> From: aoki@postgres.Berkeley.EDU (Paul M. Aoki) To: Carole Goble Cc: postgres@postgres.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: more survey summary In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 24 Sep 93 18:03:04 BST <9309241703.AA06274@rdl043.cs.man.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 11:36:02 -0700 X-Sender: aoki@postgres.Berkeley.EDU X-Mts: smtp Resent-To: postgres-dist Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 11:34:40 PDT hi carole. Carole Goble writes: > >if you want to give people a taste of database use, why not use a real > >SQL engine. or, if you can't afford it, ingres89 (which doesn't do any > >neat stuff but is smaller and more reliable and also runs on sparcs). > Tricky if you want to teach them about active databases and extensible > systems and other exciting things 'cos they all know SQL anyway. well, yeah. :-) i was talking about the people who are just trying to show ugrads something about databases (which is what i meant by "a taste of database use", sorry if that wasn't clear) but can't afford an educational license for a commercial system. if i didn't think people should use postgres in an educational environment i would said, "i don't think people should use postgres in an educational environment." all i was saying was, there are lower-function (but still free) alternatives if you want to see what a transaction is. presumably someone (like a grad student) who wants to see the "bleeding edge" is no longer in the "taste of database use" category :-) (i would hope so, anyway.) such people (who are probably implementing their own prototype systems) are presumably more prepared to bleed :-) -- Paul M. Aoki | CS Div., Dept. of EECS, UCB | aoki@postgres.Berkeley.EDU | Berkeley, CA 94720 | ...!uunet!ucbvax!aoki